Challenge Defeatism. Resist Doomerism

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  • I mean it doesn’t sound like they’re seeking ‘extra’ work, because Anon is not doing any work at all. I’d argue there’s a difference between ‘extra work’ and ‘any work’.

    They’re not meeting expectations either because the expectation for their role is unlikely to be ‘doing fuck all’, the expectation is doing whatever job is outlined in their JD, which they’re demonstrably not.

    Again, I don’t really care either way. Do what you can get away with, but be cognisant of the risks, and how that might affect your future employability otherwise you may find yourself doing nothing because you don’t have a job at all.


  • Duh, they’re butthurt they fucked up, but also who cares if they’re sympathetic?

    If you want to keep the job, you should.

    Look, if this works for OP and others, great. More power to them. But the reality is that, in most situations this isn’t going to end up with the whole office applauding you for gaming the system and ‘sticking it to the man’ all whilst your manager looks on dispondantly from the background. It’s going to result in a lot of uncomfortable discussions with HR and you potentially losing your job, or at the very least be given a written warning. If that’s not a problem then great.

    If your employee can go months doing nothing then you’re a shite boss who’s even worse than that employee, frankly

    Sure, but that doesn’t mean that the employee is not culpable as well. They have a responsibility to inform their line manager that they have no work to do. If the manager still does nothing, then great, enjoy the free time. But they should at least try. Your company expects you to be working in exchange for payment. I’ve seen situations where someone taking money for work they were knowingly not doing was accused of fraud. Maybe that sticks in court, maybe it doesn’t, but is it worth the hassle to find out?


  • I’m from the UK. In most working environments there is an expectation of maturity and responsibility. If you don’t have enough work to do there is an expectation that you, as an employee, are responsible and mature enough to ask your manager for more as ultimately that is what you’re being paid to do - work, whether you like that or not. If you have nothing to do, and deliberately do nothing about that then your employer has reasonable grounds to at least raise this as an issue. If you’re not seen as a someone who takes their job seriously, then you may find yourself looking for a new one if your department needs to downsize, for example.

    Also, regardless of whether your manager should’ve known or not, that doesn’t mean your not also at fault for not telling them. If you tell them, and nothing changes, then that’s a different story entirely.

    Let me put it this way: if your manager turned around and asked what you’ve been doing for the last X months and your response was ‘nothing’ and then tried to pass that off as their fault, I wouldn’t imagine many employers would be too sympathetic to your arguments.


  • Problem with that approach is that they will argue that if you didn’t have enough work to do, you should have asked for more. OP knowingly slipped through the cracks to, so the argument of ‘I don’t have a line manager to give me any’ probably isn’t going to cut it as their work will argue that OP should’ve gone to HR to sort their responsibilities as soon as they were aware.







  • The argument being made is: "AI is currently slop but there is a reasonable expectation that it will be pushed until it is indistinguishable from human work, and therefore devaluing of human work.

    Again, if the work is ‘indistinguishable’ then I don’t see how AI art ‘devalues’ human work any more than the work done by another human. This just sounds like old fashioned competition, which has existed as long as art itself has.

    I don’t like AI because it’s just another way that “corporate gonna corporate” and it never ends up working out for the mere mortals’ benefit

    Corporations abusing technology to the disbenefit of people is nothing new, unfortunately, and isn’t unique to AI (see Email, computers, clocking in machines, monitoring software etc). That speaks to a need for better corporate oversight and better worker rights.

    misinformation is already so prevalent and it’s going to continue to get worse (we have seen this already–trump abuses it continually).

    This is a good point, but again AI is hardly the first time technology has been used to spread lies and misinformation. This highlights a fundamental problem with our media and a need to teach better critical thinking in schools etc.

    They’re all valid concerns but in my opinion they suggest AI is being used as an enabler, and not that the problems in question are the sole product of it. Sadly if we stopped using anything and everything that was misused for nefarious means we’d go back to the stone age.


  • AI is generally bad because it tends to steal content from human creators…

    Again, this is an argument that I see a lot, that’s simply not true. AI is not stealing anything. Theft is a specific legal term. If I steal your TV, I have your TV and you don’t. If AI is trained on some content that content still exists. Whatever training takes place steals nothing.

    …because corporations want another excuse to throw more workers on the street in favor of machines…

    Your point is a valid one, but this not unique to AI and is the inevitable result of the onward march of technology. The very thing we’re using to communicate right now, the Internet, is responsible for billions of job losses. That’s not a valid reason to get rid of it. Instead of blaming AI for putting people out work, we should be pressuring governments to implement things like UBI to provide people with a basic living wage. That way people need not fear the impact the advance of technology will have on their ability to feed and house themselves.

    There are some AI uses that are good though, such as AI voice generation to help those that can’t speak to communicate with the world and not sound like a robot.

    These are great examples.