if anyone thinks any of these spammed links is proof, please point it out. I’m not clicking every one. this is the most blatant Gish gallops I’ve seen in months.

calling me names won’t change the facts.

only one of them* is peer-reviewed. it doesn’t actually support the claim that you’re using it to support. The others are of dubious validity, but they also don’t make the same very strong claim that you have.

edit: “them” was in reference to the comment a few back in the thread. the gish gallop of links that appeared after i wrote this comment all appear to be peer reviewed.

no, I’m examining your position, and the evidence provided, and found that they are insufficient.

it shows that the evidence you’ve provided doesn’t actually support your claim

the only peer reviewed source you provided spends as much time detailing risks as it does explaining potential benefits, and it’s based on a single case study.

You’re on the block list now.

oh thank God.

calling me names doesn’t change the facts

this is more hypothesizing. it’s not proof of your claim.

your accusation of sealioning is also bad faith.

then make that case instead of claiming they’d fold someone.

your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith.

this isn’t proof. it’s a hypothesis.

that’s not a testament of intelligence

what are the enumerated rights Jains bestow upon animals? there are none.

The idea of controlling others and using them for our own purposes stems entirely from animal husbandry.

you can’t prove this.

Jains don’t believe in animal rights. I don’t know the alma’arri, but I do know that it was mostly people advocating for their own full humanity that won them progress.

veganism was invented in the 1940s. abolition and feminism didn’t need veganism to make significant progress, and until the mid 20th century, none of them were vegan anyway.

it’s hard for me to imagine that veganism is a necessary facet of any liberatory struggle.

abolitionists and feminists fight against comparing slaves and women to animals.

I doubt they are militant

gravity exists, and you don’t know what others need better than they do.