• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    petrol

    I think this is a uniquely American problem due to our low regulations and ridiculous drug laws.

    But for the most part things need to be explicitly outlawed, and everything else is fair game to be sold for human consumption as a “supplement”.

    We went thru it with “Spice” and your country may have as well. They used analogs to THC, and at first it really felt like weed. But we’d outlaw the current one, and the company had the next one already in production. Stores/gas stations would literally have the next generation in the back so they could rotate the day the current one was outlawed.

    Like, I remember back in the day when I played sports, lots of guys wouldn’t take a weightlifting supplement that had been on the market more than two years… Because anything “good” would have been taken off the market by then.

    It’s just a revolving door where no one really knows what’s anything.

    So even tho this is and opioid, no one checked if it was safe first, and when it’s outlawed it’ll be tweaked just enough to be something new. And that “new” version will have more negatives and less positives, but if you’re hooked on the old kind, you’re gonna use the new kind over nothing. Or maybe move to legit black market.

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      28 days ago

      Yeah we had something similar here for a while. “Head shops” were selling bath salts and spice and what not.

      The government struggled to catch up because the next analogue was ready to go the second any ban came in.

      Eventually they brought out what was essentially a “fuck this shit” piece of legislation. Was a good few years ago now. More than ten if memory serves. It all shut down overnight.

      Things are way more regulated here though in general (Ireland). I can’t even buy melatonin over the counter which honestly is both stupid and annoying.

      Edit: We do still have the good sudafed though. One with two paracetamol is great for a hangover. :)

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        27 days ago

        We do still have the good sudafed though

        Interesting flex to admit none of you can figure out how to make and sell meth.

        /s

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          25 days ago

          You jest, but the average Irish junkie just isn’t as enterprising as the average American one. :D

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            25 days ago

            It’s the bootstraps.

            Or… a side effect of living our whole lives on the financial brink of starvation or homelessness forcing us into a mindset and culture where we’re always seeking to monetize things because that’s all we know to do since our entire culture is bent towards growing the economy.

            Nah, it’s the bootstraps.

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              25 days ago

              Lol. It is, in fact, the bootstraps. You were right all along.

              Edit: I know we’re having a laugh here but that whole bootstraps thing does seem very harsh from the outside. Like I’ve spent a lot of time in the US (more than 6 months over the course of my life over various trips) and I’m genuinely very fond of the place, but the whole lack of social support structure does seem kinda ruthless from the outside looking in.

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                25 days ago

                the whole lack of social support structure does seem kinda ruthless from the outside looking in.

                It absolutely, depressingly, and soul crushingly is. Send help. Better still: ask your governments to grant US citizens asylum. I’m ok with leaving these sado-masochists to ouroboros themselves.