• blazera@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Take a minute to read that headline again. You got Trump for this now, because you insisted to everyone to accept that headline, those deaths, that ‘better than this’ just isnt an option. You wouldnt permit people that care about life, that oppose genocide somewhere else to go. So they went nowhere, because genocide is not an option.

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      6 hours ago

      And yet accelerated genocide is the option that was chosen.

      Look, I get the argument you’re making. The problem is that it hinges entirely on accepting a premise that isn’t based in reality. Progress, specifically as it relates to harm reduction, doesn’t happen instantaneously. It never has. You take the wins you can get and then push for the next step. You can be mad about that, and I would argue that we all should be, but it’s not going to change the way things work. In this case you’ve let idealism get in the way of actual tangible improvement. Even if you disagree with that characterization you can’t dispute the fact that you’ve at least helped shut the door on the potential for improvement. If you can find a way to rationalize that in your head to make you feel like the good guy then I understand why you would want to take that path, but do you honestly believe the people of Gaza take solace in the fact that you had good intentions? I’d wager they don’t give a shit how you frame this in your mind. They’re just thinking about what a Trump presidency means for the future of this conflict and that isn’t good by any stretch of the imagination.

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        3 hours ago

        This is deranged. Progress? Improvement? What did Kamala say she would do differently? Did she say she’d stop sending weapons and financial assistance?

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          Netanyahu was filibustering the peace process hoping for Trump to win while he ran out the clock. If he, like Putin, were forced to deal with Harris instead of Trump over the next four years his attitude would’ve changed after the results were announced.

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            3 hours ago

            Filibuster? Man that asshole doesnt have a filibuster, he has absolutely zero authority over whether or not we send him weapons and financial assistance.

            Why would his attitude have to change with Harris vs his current attitude with Biden? Did she say she was gonna stop sending weapons and money? She was pretty adamant about being a continuation of Biden as far as I saw

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              2 hours ago

              Why would his attitude have to change with Harris vs his current attitude with Biden?

              Because Biden and Harris and various other Democrats wanted peace and were genuinely concerned about the people in the region caught up in the conflict. Trump gives absolutely no shits about any of it and neither do Republicans who will allocate the funds because that’s how our government works.

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      6 hours ago

      Yes it is. It’s the one you got. Congrats on maintaining your ideological purity. It’s going to be quite a show.

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      Your bloody avoidance for voting anyone has led not only to Gaza getting flattened, but also women’s rights, lgbt rights, any form of medical care, Ukraine, and the climate.

      The blood is on your fucking hands now. At least Kamala would have seen reason and you could probably have talked to her/her party about Israel.

      Good luck with fucking ignorant Trump, who won’t even listen when a woman says no to him.

      But thank God you didn’t vote for anyone doing genocide! I will feel so relieved you did that when Russia has a border with my fucking country

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        3 hours ago

        You are describing things that have already happened, are current events, all under democrats, and them promising more of the same.

        I did vote, for the candidate that opposes the genocide.

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          2 hours ago

          Since when are democrats the ones pushing abortion bans? Since when are they the ones wanting to withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord? Since when are blue states the ones banning books that contain any mention of queer people?

          From my knowledge blue states have been doing anything but those things. It’s red states that are doing all sorts of shady shit, and it’s Trump literally saying he will: -Withdraw the U.S. from the Climate Accord -Appoint RFK as head of medicine -Get rid of education department -Withdraw spending in Ukraine and talk to his lover Putin -Increase tariffs on EU which in turn will just hurt U.S. economy

          you can blabber all day about how democrats are doing X Y Z wrong, but Trump is doing all of that PLUS more and way worse. No one likes this man, not even his own party members.

          But I guess the best way to deal with a truck about to hit you is to close your eyes and hope for the best

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            Roe got overturned. Climate change is continuing to accelerate and democrats did a lot to make that happen, thats a long discussion though.

            close your eyes and hope for the best

            Again, I voted. I dont care that you think that a vote for a progressive candidate doesnt count, i took action.