• QuarterSwede@lemmy.world
    1·
    2 days ago

    The irrationality and hyper emotional state of a lot of commenters. Not saying there isn’t due cause these days* but people GET. A. GRIP. and control yourself. You aren’t helping others or yourself with that behavior. It’s super immature.

    *I’m not talking about being angry. I’m talking about how do I go on living emotional responses.

  • ter_maxima@jlai.lu
    591·
    7 days ago

    Not enough people for even slightly niche communities. Wanna talk about smash brothers ? 732 people, only 2 posts in the last month.

    This is why people still use reddit on the side.

    • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk
      525·
      7 days ago

      I don’t think that in itself if the problem. anyone can host an instance. The problem is lemmy.ml being the apparent default instance, advertising itself as an instance for privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, and not mentioning seemingly anywhere in the description/rules that only red flavour authoritarian dogma is allowed in political discussion.

      “America bad, therefore former ‘communist’ russia and current ‘communist’ china good.”

      Edit: it’s not featured as prominently as it used to be on join-lemmy.org so things may be improving. they should still mention in the description that western viewpoints on many issues are not allowed due to “rule 1”

      • nebulaone@lemmy.world
        435·
        7 days ago

        I realized .ml was fucking insane and delusional when they glorified Stalin and refused to recognize the atrocities he committed.

        No matter what your political stance is, as soon as you deny negative facts and exclusively push the “positives” it becomes a problem and may radicalize you (if that isn’t already the case).

        What happened to nuanced moderate politics? It seems people unconditionally put the “left” or “right” label on themselves. And ironically these blind followers will have the audacity to call anyone close to the political center, or people who are honest with themselves, cowards.

          • nebulaone@lemmy.world
            202·
            7 days ago

            I was on .ml first after leaving reddit, because I didn’t know this was the case, until I called out straight up state propaganda and defended capitalism with social and ethical policies once. You can imagine how they responded to that.

      • Hadriscus@jlai.lu
        17·
        7 days ago

        yea I visited the instance index some time ago because I had to pick a replacement for lemm.ee (rip in peace), saw the description under lemmy.ml and wondered whether they were being intentionally or accidentally misleading.

        • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk
          13·
          7 days ago

          They certainly mislead me. My first year or so was on lemmy.ml @PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml

          After repeated bans i decided to move to a more relaxed instance. i still interact with lemmy.ml because some of the bigger open source communities are there, but .ml admins now cannot block me from accessing the full lemmyverse, only their diminishing corner of it

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          6 days ago

          im glad i blocked that instance, i was accidentally engaging into too many .ml posts there were mirror image of how conservatives posts, just whining and chastising opinions.

        • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk
          2·
          7 days ago

          well tbf they are the two most active servers there though. not sure why .world isnt on there though. maybe removed temporarily so that newbies filter out to smaller instances

          • wjs018@piefed.socialEnglish
            3·
            7 days ago

            IIRC it is intentional that world isn’t there to help spread out users to other instances.

    • redsunrise@programming.devEnglish
      102·
      7 days ago

      Tankies on their way to hate private ownership and dictatorship of the bourgeoisie so much that they begin to love state ownership and dictatorship of the bureacracy

  • intelisense@lemm.ee
    461·
    7 days ago

    Duplicate communities posting the same content over and over again.

    Communities are tied to an instance. How many communities will die because lemm.ee is shutting down? There is a slightly mad rush to migrate communities already.

    Lemmy should have used usent style naming for communities.

  • JTskulk@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    5 days ago

    Repeated content. When I doomscroll I see the same posts I’ve already seen instead of less popular ones.

  • cm0002@lemmy.world
    576·
    7 days ago

    The lemmy.ml instance not being treated the same as the rest of the Triad in regards to defederation

    Some highlights from the link:

    "Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

    “See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

    .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558

    CW: Original transphobic Comment from Nutomic

    “NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

    General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

    “If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

    And a long list of bans/censorship and allowing the proliferation of known propaganda and misinformation outlets clearly demonstrating use of their instance and recognition to force a political narrative

    • Mearuu@kbin.melroy.org
      282·
      7 days ago

      I am currently working on a report on vote manipulation and the early results are showing clear signs of the some most prolific .ml accounts participating in brigading and vote manipulation.

      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
        111·
        7 days ago

        I can’t count the number of times I made a comment way deep in a chain that conflicts with .ml dogma, and after the first downvote, there are suddenly 5 more within minutes

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        21·
        6 days ago

        that was so pervasive on reddit, you either get banned, or ended up arguing more and then get banned.

        • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          6·
          7 days ago

          I think the parent comment is talking about piefed the software, compared to Lemmy the software, not the specific piefed.social instance they’re posting from.

            • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              3·
              6 days ago

              The developers of the Lemmy software are the admins of the lemmy.ml instance and are problematic. The complaint is that the software itself can’t be separated from the priorities of the .ml instance.

              Piefed doesn’t have the same issue, even if the flagship instance federates with .ml

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      6 days ago

      i block the whole instance, so i dont have to deal with any of those posts, but the single .ml accounts can still be problematic.

  • BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee
    11·
    6 days ago

    not enough of my niche interests from reddit moved here. also the sports communities are a little bit like ghost towns

  • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works
    341·
    7 days ago

    The lack of content compared to reddit. If you look at !learn_programming@programming.dev for example, there is only one post this week, and 4 posts this month. How is it that, with all the web developers and AI vibe coding shit, no one is actually asking questions?

    When I was on reddit, I had to hide posts because there were 10 or 20 interesting questions every day.

    • Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world
      17·
      7 days ago

      It’s a negative feedback loop. There is a good chance programmers asking questions NEED the answer (homework, work-work) so they don’t risk asking in low pop forums, making the forum low pop because there are no questions.

    • Proudly Green@feddit.uk
      1·
      5 days ago

      Yep, I had same reaction. Since there are so many tech nerds on here, as most early adopters are, I thought that community would have a lot more content. But I’ll be adding to it soon enough since I just started to learn programming! :)

  • Ludrol@szmer.info
    111·
    6 days ago

    Lemmy devs - they are a curse and a blessing. A blessing that they worked on lemmy before reddit exodus. A curse as it’s hard to contribute to the codebase and related components.

    At least we have mbin and piefed to federate with.

    Also in the 2 years since, the culture has shifted. There is less: “This is a new place. let’s make it enjoyable for everyone” and more “I am right, everyone is wrong, and I will ruin your day”, but that could be just my perception and not enough blocking.

    • BubblyRomeo@kbin.earth
      51·
      6 days ago

      “I am right, everyone is wrong, and I will ruin your day”

      u/Ludrol

      This WILL be the fate of EVERY alternative social media platform. Part of Fediverse or not. As all alternate social media platforms birth from some sort of protest/activism/boycott, the best example is how Shittit (Reddit) API changes gave birth to Shitmmy (Lemmy) and Deadbin (Mbin). Alternate platforms usually give space to de-platformed individuals. In the past Alt social medias gave space for the far right and alt-right, now it’s far left and alt-left. Nothing different. Just look at what shitshow is going on in Shitsky (Bluesky) and Shitlight social (Skylight social)! Every post is “Orange man bad!”, “MAGA Bad!”. I gave Shitlight social a try and couldn’t stand it! The folks there are chronically online and so deluded that they think everyone is MAGA, like there was a video where a young 11 year girl drove her parents car to the supermarket to buy something and crashed the car into the supermarket, the comments were like “The parents are Trump supporters!”. I was like WTF! There was no media coverage of this incident (at the point when the video was made), the video was filmed by someone inside the supermarket, no other context, no nothing! And those deluded foids were screaming “Her parents are Trump supporters!” without even knowing the girl’s name! To them everyone is a Trump supporter. Every alt media platform will become like this- filled with individuals on the extreme sides of the political spectrum. No alt media platform will reach mainstream status including the ones on Shitiverse (Fediverse).

  • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
    9·
    6 days ago

    Some Communities are still controlled by people with absurd egos and overconfidence. Most of them hate people too, which is fun for a community manager.

    I think it mirrors real life though, the type of people who want to be leaders tend to be assholes, and the ones who would be good at leading won’t volunteer to do it.

  • HeyJoe@lemmy.world
    19·
    7 days ago

    As everyone has pointed out, people and content. Its good in some ways since not every post is drowned out with one thousand replies nobody will ever see, but at the same time, you’re not getting much of anything at all sometimes. Not even very niche ones either. Even groups that represent entire states has limited info or replies still. If it can grow to that size and see some more unique and local content more I think even that would be a much better place for it to be.

    • JakoJakoJako13@piefed.socialEnglish
      8·
      7 days ago

      Yeah this is my issue with it. I can find all the arts, Linux, and political stuff just fine. Sports, music, and places communities are seriously lacking. They exist, but are a shell of what you’d hope they’d be. Engagement is so low, it’s not worth bothering. The sports and music communities being so small and sparse is a real bummer.

      • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        6 days ago

        This is more to do with most Lemmy users being shut-in nerds not inclined to sports tbh.

        • Proudly Green@feddit.uk
          1·
          5 days ago

          This is more to do with most Lemmy users being shut-in nerds not inclined to sports tbh.

          Totally this. The amount of shut-in nerds on here, with strange obsessive habits of stalking people who disagree with them, is wild.

          I’ve seen people mention wanting to talk more sports on here, and some of the hate and downvotes those posts get is insane.

    • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      To be frank, in many cases communities were simply picked up by the wrong people who proceeded to not actively feed it with content. So they simply die.

  • squaresinger@lemmy.world
    253·
    7 days ago

    Issues that would be solved by time/gaining more users

    • Not nearly enough people to cover all the niche interest communities that Reddit does. At Reddit you find an expert on almost any topic to help you with your problems and you’ll find information on pretty much anything. Lemmy isn’t there yet.
    • Not nearly enough history. A lot of content is still good and informative after many years. Lemmy doesn’t have a library of old-but-still-relevant content to search.

    Issues independent of user count

    • Search sucks. Reddit’s search does too, but reddit is easily searchable via Google. Lemmy isn’t.
    • Onboarding is difficult, because you have to choose an instance, which is hugely important, but a newcomer has no idea what makes/is a good community to join

    Issues that get worse with more users (aka, the potentially deal-breaking issues)

    • Lemmy scales terribly. Every larger instance needs to retain a copy of pretty much all other content out there, and each comment/like/delete/update/… needs to be propagated to every other major instance out there. Adding more instances thus increases complexity and cost instead of decreasing it. Running a major lemmy instance is already prohibitively expensive now, with just about 50k monthly active users. If Lemmy was to scale to Reddit numbers (1.1 billion monthly active users, roughly 22 000x the number of users), everything would just break down.
    • Moderation work scales just as terribly. Not only does an admin need to make sure the communities on their instance are moderated, but they also need to moderate all other communities on all other instances.
    • Related to the last point, there’s some legal issues as well if an admin doesn’t moderate all other instances. Since content is copied from other instances to your instance, illegal content (e.g. illegal pornography, copyrighted works, …) are also copied to your own server without your active participation. That makes it legally mandatory to moderate all other communities.
    • Legal pitfalls in general. If lemmy becomes sizeable enough, all sorts of laws in regards to social media platforms will apply. That’s one thing if the social media platform is run by a huge corporation with a legal department, but it’s an entirely different story for a tiny group of non-profit idealists running the social media platform.
      • squaresinger@lemmy.world
        2·
        6 days ago

        That’s honestly not very helpful.

        • It’s not exactly at a place where someone joins lemmy. Most people likely join via downloading an app, and if they are lucky that app links them to join-lemmy.org, and more often than not, it doesn’t link them anywhere and just asks them to either select an instance from a dropdown without further information or it asks them to enter an instance name from memory.
        • The advice is very questionable and not really helpful without context.
        • Lemmy.world is too big

        There are Lemmy-reasons for why that’s a problem, but in any other context, the biggest is the best. And even in regards to lemmy, bigger instances have a higher chance to remain, to be decently moderated and to be decently stable. Before joining Lemmy.world, I was on Feddit.de, and we all know how that ended. And even before they vanished without a warning or an explanation, Feddit.de servers were always outdated, slow and unreliable, and moderation was arbitrary at best and non-existent at worst.

        Lemmy.world is stable and works just as expected.

        That’s a somewhat decent reasoning, though not immediately understandable as a new user. And not relevant anymore because Lemm.ee will shutdown within a week or so from now.

        • sh.itjust.works names contains “shit”, which can deter users

        Thanks, I’m adult enough to know whether I’m offended by the word “shit”.

        lemmy.ca is Canadian-centric feddit.org, is German-centric, but technically English speaking too programming.dev is topic-centric blahaj is queer-focused infosec.pub is topic-centric aussie.zone is country-centric midwest.social is region-centric

        None of that really matters thanks to federation.

        dbzer0 federates hexbear

        Like Lemm.ee, apart from the fact that it still exists

        beehaw is way outdated

        That’s some relevant reasoning.

        sopuli.xyz (neutral name

        See also:

        discuss.tchncs.de has a difficult name

        Sopuli.xyz isn’t any easier than discuss.tchnics.de, and jet discuss.tchnics.de was excluded for the name only.

        While down in the comments it says

        Sopuli doesn’t support gifs

        Which is a really hard reason to avoid that instance, much more so than “has a difficult name”. That’s got much more practical implications.

        But what’s left regardless is: Even that link that is supposed to make instance selection easier isn’t exactly easy to understand for a newcomer.

        Relevant XKCD:

        • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
          1·
          6 days ago

          ut what’s left regardless is: Even that link that is supposed to make instance selection easier isn’t exactly easy to understand for a newcomer.

          Newcomers are supposed to just read

          " Lemmy has 47k monthly active users

          https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency)
https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU
https://vger.app/settings/install if you want an app

          Feel free if you have any questions "

          The rest was up for debate, feel free to copy paste your comment in that thread so that other people can see it as well

  • selkiesidhe@lemm.ee
    13·
    6 days ago

    I have trouble finding um what are they called here… Communities?.. for the subjects I’m interested in. When I search, all I find is old posts or unrelated posts.

    That’s my biggest problem

  • RBWells@lemmy.world
    11·
    6 days ago

    Smaller user base. It is both good and bad but the community for my city is dead (probably there were only like 8 of us on here).

    Am old enough to know from experience that the early people on any platform are the computer geeks so expect the tech communities to thrive first - but as someone else said, music communities die, sports, arts, things that are pretty widely popular. Honestly happy with the slow and steady growth of the !cocktails@lemmy.world so if it’s an indicator, the general interest people are joining just not quickly but some must be sticking. I would guess at some point it will be perfect then too big but who knows?

    Personally I also miss the nonsexual nudes threads like nakedprogress and normalnudes. Again that’s a lack of users issue, you need a lot of people willing to post, to have even a few willing to post nude.

    • Zenith@lemm.ee
      1·
      6 days ago

      I was a very early reddit user and this just feels like Reddit twenty years ago