• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    What are you talking about? He’s the Democratic candidate now. That’s how primaries work.

    We moved the attendance from 21% in 2021 to 30% and now the Democratic candidate is a progressive. That’s literally all it took- voting in the goddamn primary.

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      24 days ago

      You’re completely missing the point. Just because you win the primary doesn’t mean the party will actually support you. He’s still receiving opposition from suburban Democrats, and the party leadership isn’t endorsing him, as would be expected for any other victor of the mayoral primary.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/25/nyregion/mamdani-democrats-schumer-jeffries.html

      He’ll still have the D spot on the ballot, but a lot of the value of the party is having the people of the party behind you. The endorsements, leaders campaigning with you, sharing resources with you, etc. You can win a primary and still be completely shut out by the Democratic establishment.

      This shows the utter sham that “Vote Blue No Matter Who” is. It only applies when it’s a centrist that wins a nomination. When a centrist wins a primary, it becomes the responsibility of every progressive to hold their nose and vote for the corporate pig. When a progressive wins the party, the centrists circle the wagons, refuse to support the progressive, and often support the Republican. Loyalty to the party only goes one way with liberals.

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        They aren’t required to fund him, that’s true, but all campaign donations from the DNC are transparent. He can compare it to Adams’ purse in 2021. They also can’t stop him from fundraising directly.

        If he makes it clear that they are withholding financial support given to prior candidates, then people will donate to him directly and the DNC will be publicly called out for favoring past candidates. That’s the last thing they need after the Debbie Wasserman-Shultz/Hillary Clinton scandal.

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          24 days ago

          Oh you mean like the Bernie scandal?

          Yeah buddy you haven’t paid enough attention to how the DNC functions. They’ll lie, just like the GOP.

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            24 days ago

            You don’t even know what you’re talking about. The Bernie scandal was over the primary. That’s what Zohran just won. He’s now on the Democratic ticket. He has full transparency with their donor records.

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              My Brother in Christ, you don’t get it. Bernie won the primary in my state. That didn’t stop the moderates and blue dogs from torpedoing his campaign with rat fuckery and minimal party support. What guarantees Zohran’s campaign is going to be any different?

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                22 days ago

                While still running in the primary, the DNC is not technically supposed to provide funding directly to a candidate. That was part of the scandal with Hillary. Bernie was unable to challenge the unbalanced support because he didn’t receive any, and had no access to Hillary’s collusion with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

                The difference is Zohran has now won the primary, and is the Democratic candidate for NYC mayor. He will now be financed by the DNC. He can compare the amount that he is provided by the DNC to the very accessible public records of past Democratic mayoral candidates. Do you understand the difference now?

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                  22 days ago

                  Yeah, I get it: you’re naive. You believe being officially on the ballot is somehow going to protect him from the same ratfucking bullshit thats done in other progressive and leftist candidates.

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                    22 days ago

                    Those candidates get fucked out of winning the primary and getting on the ticket. Zohran passed that hurdle with a grassroots campaign, meaning it’s never been about the establishment. It’s always been about us participating in the primaries. If every progressive voted in every Democratic primary, no amount of underfunding or slander would stop us. It’s just that simple.