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It’s about migrants. They are granted one year of asylum with free housing to determine if they want to naturalize or move to another nation. We have space around the nation to accommodate more, but all migrants are bused to sanctuary cities that are at or above cost capacity. With Federal support, we could properly support migrants in other cities and states, and properly allocate Federal funding.
Executive Orders can control the border, but not immigration reform. Biden’s options are refusing entry, detainment, or accepting more migrants than sanctuary cities will accept.
Congress needs to pass updated and streamlined immigration reform. The last time Congress passed a full overhaul of immigration was in 1986. The act passed in 2013 when Democrats had control of the House and Senate was tied to border security, and amended previous acts.
There’s a bill currently in the House with 118 Democratic cosponsors.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/3194
Immigration reform is the solution to mitigating our birth rate decline. Not forcing women to have unwanted children.
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Good point. Thank you for the correction. I’ll edit for clarity.
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WHAT? We NEED a birth rate decline.
We’ve been in a decline since 1987, with a sharp downturn in 2007 for obvious financial reasons.
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/USA/united-states/birth-rate
Republicans compare current birth rates to the 1950s when they argue against abortion rights with, “we need more babies.” They just don’t want babies from other nations.
Good. We need it.
You talk like you don’t know what you’re talking about
And you do?
We don’t need higher populations. What part of this is difficult for you to understand? I know Elon Musk said some shit a few years ago, but he’s a mindless dolt. The world could do with a thinning of the herd.
https://www.populationmedia.org/the-latest/overpopulation-cause-and-effect
Now, are you going to respond like a mature adult and have a civil discussion, or are you going to insult me again?
He said we already have a decline. He also pointed out that immigration is the current proposed solution. Republican solution is forcing women to not abort, even if it kills them. No exceptions. Both proposed solutions suck. This is a real life trolley problem.
We shouldn’t be closing borders, we shouldn’t be killing mother’s and children shouldn’t be having kids. But here we are.
This is expected to hurt him with his base while Republicans call the measure fake news to cover up the 10,000 trans mules Biden ordered from Bolivia to sway the election that they heard from newsOAANmax.
The one remaining independent voter decided on Thursday to sit this one out since: “Man. I don’t know what the heck is going on and everytime I pick a side, half the country yells at me.”
I remember folks were arguing dems were only playing along with the anti-immigration parts of that bill as a bargaining chip to send aid to ukraine. Then that version of the bill died off.
So they just implement the anti-immigration parts on their own i guess.
Gun control = republican, immigration crackdown = Democrat, WTF is happening?
Obama deported more illegal immigrants than George W Bush and Donald Trump combined. Biden deported more illegals in his first 18 months than Trump did during his entire term.
Democrats being “weak on immigration” is nothing more than a racist dog whistle to stir up GOP voters.
Nobody wants illegal immigrants pouring over the border. That being said, some of us are a lot more understanding about it than others, because there would be a lot fewer people trying to cross if the CIA didn’t spend the last 60 years deliberately destabilizing South American governments. Fortunately, that’s not how most illegals get here. Most of them just overstay their visa after it expires. Which means that most of the time, deporting illegals involved lots of boring paperwork and happens one person at a time. There’s no drama in it, so it doesn’t really make the news like immigrants at the border do.
Democrats understand that simple fact. Republicans don’t.
I want immigrants pouring over the border, cause fuck borders, borders are the illegal part of this whole equation.
It’s crazy that give commerce more rights to travel freely than we give living, breathing humans. Fuck borders.
Well you’re in luck, because America already lets in more immigrants than any other country on the planet.
If the best in the world isn’t good enough for you, I’m not sure what to tell you.
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Do you have an easily digestible source so I can stick this in the face of conservatives with classic talking points?
The deportation numbers are readily available on Wikipedia and official government websites. I tend to shy away from recommending news articles whenever there is an opportunity to go directly to the data itself. It takes a little more work but you avoid any potential spin or bias.
The reason people cross illegally is we don’t let refugees in legally.
The mass of innocent people, provides cover for the less than innocent. And they turn people into mules when they do cross, after charging them for it.
That’s not even getting into the rampant organ harvesting that’s happening to the people waiting to cross.
And like you said, Dems haven’t been doing the right thing for decades now.
How are we better than Republicans if we let this horrible shit happen just because the other team is worse?
Why not just run someone with some fucking empathy?
Stop spreading false information
The US absolutely accepts refugees as well as migrants. They’re the majority of the people I see at the Roosevelt Hotel in midtown. They’re afforded one year of free housing in a sanctuary city to allow them time to decide if they want to naturalize or move on to another nation.
Why not just run someone with some fucking empathy?
Because, unfortunately, that person will be seen as weak, and lose.
Only if you ignore history and the fact the moderate wing of the Dem party is just very loud, very small, and very wealthy.
They’ve got money behind them for the same reason they don’t have voters behind them.
And they still have to cheat to win the primary, and voting for them because they’re not Republicans doesn’t fix anything.
The people paying both parties have already won by then.
Republicans support horrible shit because they think Dems are worse, Dems support horrible shit because they think (correctly) that they’ll be even worse…
We still end up with horrible shit. And that’s why on a busy election year, were lucky to crack 75% turnout most years 66%.
We’re leaving an insane amount of votes on the table, because the people running the DNC care more about money than votes. Then try to use the money to get votes.
The money is just a middle step we only need when we have an unpopular candidate. We can just fucking skip it, along with all the horrible shit Dem voters don’t even want.
But it’ll never change as long as at the end of the day we hold our noses, because why would they change when it keeps working?
Protests don’t work, because Biden and his admin refuse to listen to anyone under 60, despite most of them being hardcore trump supporters who would never vote D.
He’s running off the Dem base in the senile hopes republicans will vote D if Biden does some of the horrible shit trump did. Or even worse, he legitimately thinks these are good moves or what his voters want. There’s no good option for why he keeps doing this shit.
They’re never gonna vote D just because Biden acts more conservative though. Because trump is always going to take it further. Following him makes no logical sense except that’s where the donations are
People seem to forget about Obama cracking down on the border when crossings got high during his term.
Immigration is more of a cultural, identity issue than just an economic issue.
Immigration has been a chronic issue in the USA going back centuries eg discrimination against Chinese railroad workers, Irish and Italian immigrants, restrictions on immigration in the mid-1920s, forced deportation of U.S. citizens of Mexican origin in the 1930s, antisemitism and discrimination against Jewish immigrants.
Whites are projected to be less than 50% of the population in a generation and that will make immigration issue even more challenging to solve.
We are currently working under 50 year old laws which are not up to the current high migration task. Obviously, Republicans don’t want to solve this issue, they want to use it as a wedge. So, let’s see what Joe’s got. But, it’s an executive order and only a bandaid.
Whites are projected to be less than 50% of the population in a generation and that will make immigration issue even more challenging to solve.
A leftist believes the white replacement theory?
Replacement theory believes that the factual demographic shift is being done on purpose for some nefarious end and not just because of higher fertility rates in underdeveloped nations.
And the reason is cheap, abusable labor.
Letting in so many migrants is completely on purpose. We can literally just say no to legals and kick out illegals. How is it not on purpose?
Plenty of non-white people here that aren’t immigrants that are having children.
Not nearly to the same rate as immigrants.
“Letting in” makes it sound like the goverment has something to do with it rather than the typical paralysis and inaction. Like saying a person in a coma purposefully isn’t finding work and getting off of welfare.
They sure moved quick to ban bump stocks after the Las Vegas shooting. They can move quick if they want to.
Hell, Biden is signing an executive order to limit immigration, so this exact thing was totally preventable.
I don’t think you can say “letting in” is accurate.
On average in 2024 the US is detaining 41,500 migrants PER DAY.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/04/25/rights-groups-oppose-president-bidens-expansion-ice-detention
So today being the 154th day of the year… 6,391,000 people detained so far this year?
And then they let them go after they get detained. Thats the “letting in” part.
When people come in to claim asylum, yeah, that’s part of the process.
We intentionally made it so they had to cross the border to claim asylum, take them into custody, arrest and deport them if they have criminal records, then release the others following the process for asylum.
10,337 arrested year to date, compared to 15,267 in all of 2023, 12,028 in all of 2022, and 10,763 in 2021.
How does that compare to the Trump years?
2017 - 8,531
2018 - 6,698
2019 - 4,269
2020 - 2,438Source: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics/criminal-noncitizen-statistics
No, we didnt make so they had to cross the border to claim asylum, theyre supposed to go to a port of entry.
Illegally immigrating is a seperate action from claiming asylum, and they set it up so that committing crimes doesnt mean deportation.
Just taking demographics seriously.
I see his hands aren’t tied here.
The executive action is likely to allow US officials to shut off asylum requests once a daily threshold is met, allowing border officials to limit the amount of migrant arrivals, according to media.
I know what’ll curb illegal border crossings when there’s illegal border crossings due to our massive backlog…
We’ll just let less people thru legally!
/s
Where’s are the people saying Biden can’t do anything we want via executive order because he’s not a dictator?
For some reason, that only seems to be an issue when it’s something we want…
mulling use of a 1952 law that allows access to the American asylum system to be restricted.
Someday givessomefucks will learn the difference between a law and executive order. Today is not this day though.
Someday we won’t have to see his “I totes don’t want Trump to be re-elected wink wink I’m just trying my hardest to depress Democratic voter turnout!” but I guess it’s not this day either.
The same regulation was used by the Trump administration to ban immigration and travel from several predominantly Muslim countries and to bar migrants from asylum if they were apprehended crossing into the US illegally, provoking accusations of racism.
He’s doing exactly what Trump did for the Muslim ban but it’s okay now?
Who is Biden doing this for? Not his base and not for republicans
He did that. For three years of his term. Sanctuary cities are at capacity, and Congress won’t pass immigration policy that would mandate red state participation, so there’s no Federal support.
Executive Orders can address border security, but not immigration policy.
What do you want him to do with the people? Detain them or refuse them entry?
Also where are the ones saying the Republican bill he was pushing was just a way to make them look bad.
But when will he sign a bill to curb my enthusiasm? Oh, wait. I never had any for his admin.
but trump will curb immigration worse!
I can’t believe joe biden would “both sides” us like this!!!
