Hours earlier, the Palestinian father-of-two left his apartment in Deir al-Balah to collect birth certificates for his three-day-old twins – Aysal and Aser, a boy and a girl. But while he was out, he said, he received a phone call that an Israeli strike had hit his home, killing the two babies, along with his wife, Jumana.

    • YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pubEnglish
      65·
      3 months ago

      I would probably throw myself at the people that killed my family. Try to take a few of them out.

      Sort of makes me wonder if killing all these Palestinians is really going to bring about peace for the Israelis. I think not.

      • alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        46·
        3 months ago

        They know this and encourage it.

        Every time the Palestinians kill an Israeli, that gives them permission from the Americans to kill a thousand Palestinians.

        And that’s their plan to take all the land. Offer up a few thousand Israeli lives to genocide a few million Palestinians.

      • can@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        39·
        3 months ago

        Sort of makes me wonder if killing all these Palestinians is really going to bring about peace for the Israelis. I think not.

        They’re counting on it not.

    • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.eeEnglish
      25·
      3 months ago

      When the people that did this walk in your streets, you have an opportunity to make an impact on the way out.

      This is what they call “terrorism”: when people get revenge on them for their atrocities.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldEnglish
    30·
    3 months ago

    I’ve never wanted children, but I imagine those that do would be brought to happy tears upon learning they’re going to not only be a father, but father to twins.

    And I cannot comprehend the loss you would feel learning that they were killed in a political war that they nor you have any part in.

    • med@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11·
      3 months ago

      When my daughter was 10 months, she wriggled off the sofa and bashed her bottom lip. I rushed to pick her up to make sure she was okay, and as I did, a tiny trickle of blood welled up from her split lip.

      She was perfectly fine, made loads of friends at the hospital. But in that moment, if there was a cliff next to me, I’d have jumped off of it.

      If someone else hurt them, or dropped a bomb on them, the whole world wouldn’t be safe. I can’t imagine what’s that guy is feeling.

        • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.eeEnglish
          181·
          3 months ago

          Yeah, fuck him, we forced him out and I look forward to being rid of him.

          Let’s focus on making sure the next President isn’t worse.

          • WanderingVentra@lemm.eeEnglish
            65·
            3 months ago

            It means we got to keep pressuring Harris on this shit, too. No “I’m speaking” BS allowed when you’re supporting a genocide.

            • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.eeEnglish
              95·
              3 months ago

              What’s your fucking leverage here? Kamala goes 100% anti-Israel or you’ll vote for Trump, who is 100% pro-Israel? You don’t have any leverage.

              The only thing you’ll earn by picking this right now is more votes for Trump and fewer for Harris.

              If material outcomes for Palestine were legitimately important to you, you would understand that defeating Trump is orders of magnitude more important than purity-testing Harris.

              Get on board to defeat Fascism, or go away.

              • WanderingVentra@lemm.eeEnglish
                73·
                3 months ago

                Lot of hostility for saying we need to pressure a Presidential candidate to avoid a genocide. Didn’t expect that. Seems pretty fascist tbh. It’s the lowest bar of a President, I couldn’t get any lower then that if I tried.

                She doesn’t even have to be 100% anti-Israel, just better than Biden or Trump. And that’s easy, just express literally any sort of material change to support of Israel. She doesn’t even have to keep her promise, just say she’ll try for an arms embargo then reverse it later and say it was too hard. It’s not that hard, Biden and Trump did that with lots of their promises, as did Obama.

                Besides there’s other ways to leverage power, such as the protests going on at her rallies or in LA or were happening at college campuses before summer started. MLK knew that. And she’s already been smarter than Biden, just for not being as involved. She’s been trying to thread that needle by constantly calling for a ceasefire but then she starts wagging her finger at protestors. I’m just saying we can’t let her get too complacent just because it’s not Biden. She should know the public is watching her every move on this issue, and she should feel pressured to listen to protestors or lose public sentiment. Hell, I already think it helped with her VP pick of Wallz over Shapiro.

                Btw, the US literally can’t support Israel anymore than we already are. We just sent them more weapons and ammo. There’s no higher level of genocide they can aspire to. We can’t nuke the place because Israel wants to live there. They’re basically going as fast as they can while maintaining the barest hints of international cover. They already complain they can’t do a full famine or aren’t able to openly rape Palestinians because of the angry international community. And God knows it’s not that the US would be unhappy about that, as we keep supporting them despite them doing that stuff. It’s the rest of the international community. The US can’t speed it up anymore without breaking that international cover they need for the pretense of the UN, or nuking the land they need to live in.

                • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.eeEnglish
                  14·
                  3 months ago

                  Lot of hostility for saying we need to pressure a Presidential candidate to avoid a genocide.

                  Damn straight I’m hostile to anyone arguing for voting against the only person who has any chance of deescalating this conflict. When Kamala is in the White House, pressure her all you want on Israel. Right now we need to actually make sure she makes it there, because you aren’t winning anything from a Trump presidency.

                  As far as I’m concerned, anyone campaigning against Kamala right now is campaigning for genocide, because the only alternative to her is Trump. Stop trying to win the war when there’s a good chance that we’re going to lose this pivotal battle that dooms us to lose that war.

                  Just shut the fuck up about Israeli aid until Kamala actually has decision making power. Until then you’re just sowing division.

                  However passionate you feel about this means nothing in regards to the actual material things that need to happen first to do anything about it.