EDIT: For clarification, I feel that the current situation on the ground in the war (vs. say a year ago) might indicate that an attack on Russia might not result in instant nuclear war, which is what prompted my question. I am well aware of the “instant nuclear Armageddon” opinion.

Serious question. I don’t need to be called stupid. I realize nuclear war is bad. Thanks!

  • Davel23@fedia.io
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    Russia is believed to have about 6500 nuclear weapons. Even if ninety-nine percent of them fail, that’s still 65 cities turned to ash.

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      3 months ago

      That seems like a ridiculous number of nuclear munitions. Like why so many?

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        I recall hearing something about real arms reduction making nuclear war seem like a sane, viable option.

        The theory is that we’re safer if all sides know they can completely annihilate each other. No world leaders genuinely want nuclear war (despite what they say, threaten, or imply), so nobody launches a nuke. Flaw - that theory assumes all leaders are sane and rational.

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          “The theory”… You make it sound like MAD is some obscure fact. I so hope that is not the case. But maybe… Fuck…

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            I’m not trying to. This was MANY years ago, so I’m being cautious (perhaps overly so) with the wording.

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        The US and the USSR engaged in a race to have the most nukes. After the fall of the Sowjet Union international treaties were put in place to reduce the number of nukes in both east and west.

        Don’t quote me, but if I remember correctly, at the height of the cold war, both sides had more than 12.000 nukes each.

        Humanity had enough fire power to delete the entire globe roughly 40x over then. Why? Because bigger is better.

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          That’s dumb. They didn’t do it just for shits and giggles. They did it because in a nuclear exchange, you only get one shot so you need to overwhelm your opponent’s defenses.

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            Partially yes, but there’s an even more mundane reason; with nuclear weapons, if the other side has 5, you need 6: five to destroy their five, and one to destroy their capital. But when they discover that, they’ll decide that they need seven: 6 to destroy your 6, and one to destroy your capital. Add in some uncertainty to that feedback loop, and an arms race immediately becomes an exponential curve moderated only by the amount of time production takes and the amount of resources each nation is willing to commit at any given time.

            There’s a very real way in which the proliferation of arms is, itself, an uncontrolled nuclear reaction.

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        MAD theory and both sides realize that nuke silos are targets for nuke weapons so they had “extras” because everyone knows some won’t leave the tube.

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        Imagine your opponent gets the jump on you in some massive way. Your land based nukes have to launch from somewhere and the enemy is pointing to every one they have sussed out.

        You want to still get a meaningful # in the air if the worst happens

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        Because it’s a hell of a deterrent. If we strategically destroy 99% of the arsenal they’re still capable of effectively wiping out any adversary.

        There’s a reason we haven’t been in a shooting war with Russia.

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      More likely several hundred, not 65.
      Each nuke carries multiple warheads that split up in space and fly to individual targets.