be right back, need to stock up popcorns.
The leopards are so hungry for faces that they are now eating their own. I condone this behavior.
Bannon seems like a bitter, jealous guy who would lash out in anger.
He’s one of those old guys that’s still just a little boy on the inside.
An old-timey duel to the death would be the logical solution to this problem
Why are those trannies shooting at each other?
Walter Sobchek voice Dude, trannies is not the preferred nomenclature. Transsexuals, please.
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The one time I would not be in favor of due process would be if Trump sent him to El Salvador. A side effect could be that Musk’s lawyers might even be able to fix due process for everyone. If not, he rots in a foreign prison. I see no downside.
Precedent would be a pretty big downside
We already have the precedent (see Andry José Hernández Romero, for example). Someone with power might be able to reverse it.
Deport Elon to El Salvador. Then let DOGE defund the prison program accidentally, because they don’t understand why the El Salvadorian prison system is subsidized by the US.
A split between the regular fascists and neo-reactionaries could provide an opportunity to overthrow the Trump regime.
Not sure which is which though. There are some suggestions that the Plutocrats like Musk, Thiel and others basically want feudal thiefdoms where they can use workers and people and do whatever they please. Bannon afaik is a statist. Trump doesn’t really believe in anything, and wouldn’t care if he’s President, Chairman or Emperor.
Trump just wants to play golf on taxpayer’s money
His followers believe in inequality so they actually love when he does outrageous, stupid or illegal things.
Indeed. We should not align with either side and instead take advantage of the regular chaos. Much harder to crush discent when there is infighting in the ruling class.
If the Trump administration spends a lot of resources trying to suppress the billionaires, that would lead to fewer resources available to suppress the general population.
On the other hand, if the billionaires coup the White House, they would show the US government to be weak to a coup/revolution while simultaneously losing the support of the MAGA crowd. To amplify the latter, we should make sure to spread on social media how JD Vance was chosen by Musk and other billionaires so as to undermine JD Vance’s support among the Republican base should the billionaires replace Trump with him.
They’ve been planning this shit since Goldwater, they’ve got contingency plans, that’s how we got here. They’re prepared to lose, that’s why they stacked the decks with heritage foundation plants from the top to the bottom of the system, we’ve already lost and if Elon and Donald get the fuck out of their way then they’ve got it made. I hate to say it, but keeping these idiots where they are is our best bet at pulling through this without having to start a war.
Well, we need to purge every person associated with the Heritage Foundation after the revolution.
That should definitely be an active part of the revolution, don’t give them a chance to apologize or pretend to reform or understand, kill them in their moment of tyranny and nobody will mourn them. We can’t have some bullshit ideological version of Anastasia happening to undo everything.
I’m not saying to kill them necessarily but certainly remove them from their positions, jail them for any crimes they have committed, seize their assets ect.
While cruel and evil, I have to agree with this position regarding neoconfederates. America has suffered a great deal of malice and corruption from allowing the original Confederates to retake root in the south after Reconstruction was shuttered. This can’t be allowed again.
The tree of liberty needs to be watered and given manure. The likes of Thiel, Trump, Majory, Musk, Yarvin, and others would finally serve a useful purpose.
It is neither cruel nor evil to remove cruelty and evil from the world. To kill that which intends to kill all is merely establishing a will to live.
For me, it is important to not completely dehumanize members of the neoconfederates. They must be thoroughly extinguished, but reason and limits must be remembered, else the good guys will become rotten in turn. We mustn’t feel good from hurting people, or it will become an addiction.
They made their own beds, I’m really not in the business of apologia.
Jesus, even Bannon managed to sober up long enough to have a good thought.
Season 6 is getting crazy.
Usually when things fly off the rails cuz the writers already did everything they wanted but now have to keep the story going in the name of profit
LIQUIDATE MUSK
I think you mean liquify.
They’re easily mixed up - liquidate means to convert assets into a form that’s easily transferrable, like cash on hand. Liquify means to convert Musk into liquid.
You said liquidate twice
Their brain liquidated while writing this
So I did - fixed.
You should take one more pass at it.
My God why was this so hard for me?
Now you’ve invented a new word
Why not both?
NOT FINANCIALLY
soup, soup for my family
I have never agreed with Bannon in my life but I have to say he makes some good points here. Musk has been involved in a lot of lies, stock manipulations, insider trading, and clearly some criminal negligence at tesla. And he comes from a well known criminal family. Even Musk himself said this about his dad Eroll Musk,
“You have no idea about how bad. Almost every crime you can possibly think of, he has done,” Elon said. “Almost every evil thing you could possibly think of, he has done … It’s so terrible, you can’t believe it.”
So Elon is flat out admitting that his businesses sprang from criminal enterprise? When would he say he went legit and is he still connected to this worst criminals you can think of? Needs investigating. They should civil asset forfeiture his stuff while they look into it- thats what they would do to any of us.
Like father, like son.
All 3 pillars of MAGA are pointing the finger at each other and it’s hilarious
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Would this technically be an American Standoff since Trump hates Mexico?
No, but wait for the presidential proclamation trying to rename it.
We’re renaming mexican standoffs 😂
There’s an Archer reference in this somewhere…
remind me: it’s the Fascist, Corporatist and what’s the third one?
ps: neopentecostalist?
It’s the MAGA-fascists, the technofascists, and the Christofascists, as far as I can tell
It’s plutofascists who wish they were technofascists
No no, we recategorized that as merely a dwarf fascist years ago.
I like that, I can get on board with that
Edit: I really like this. In fact, I hope you don’t mind, but I’m stealing it. Plutofascists masquerading as technofascists.
monarchist (trump-loyals who don’t actually give a fuck about immigrants or anything, they just want a godking)
all together:
fascists - authentic nazis like bannon
corporatists - in it for the money like musk
monarchists - want sole rule by a strongman, hate democracy, like trump himself and his loyalists
Corporatism is fascism.
Note the “third way” reference. What candidate from what party used that term when running for US president?
Max Power?
alright here’s my problem with that - there’s genociders who would gladly burn every business to the ground for the sake of a white authoritarian Gilead and who seemingly have no motivation beyond the oppression of minorities. what are those called?
Fascists.
Okay, then what do we call the billionaires who want to be as objectively wealthy as possible and are therefore upset when they lose the undocumented workers that make their factories / farms / meat processing facilities profitable?
Fascists.
That there are various types doesn’t change the umbrella term.
Techbros, thieves and the loonies I think
I was thinking more along the “traditional” conservatives, anti-regulation tech CEOs, and Trump himself. It was always an unsustainable balance but I did not expect it to unravel 6 days after Elon left the WH
Traditional is long dead. Now it’s the burn the government down nuts, use government for Christian nationalism religiofascists, and the grift everything in sight Trump.
I would pick the Heritage Fund religious extremist types for one leg.
Still fascism
What’s the third way?
The Max Power Way.
anyone have three arrows they could spare?
Hell, for these three does anyone have a broken arrow they can spare?
I’m fucking dying laughing at this shitshow from another country.
YOU COULDN’T FUCKING WRITE THIS SHIT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You could write that in a tv show and people would say it’s funny but too far fetched. Look at american movies and tv shows. The preside t is a smart, grey haired dude who has everything under control. I wonder if there will ever be a movie with an obese president who can’t read and shits his pants.
It could be a 2 minute SNL skit. But you’re not getting a whole show out of this.
There will probably be a show/shows that are based on this about 20-40 years after Trump and Trumpism dies.
I really hope we get through this, and all the people who supported trump are convicted of crimes against humanity or something. We can’t just keep letting conservatism break out every couple decades like a herpes infection.
The only way to permenantly stop conservatism is to abolish capitalism. When you have a system where people are allowed to hold power over other people, those powerful people will work to gain more power by any means necessary.
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Force all corporations to be worker owned coops, which will also have the effect of abolishing the stock market.
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Tax all wealth above $50m at a rate of 100%, creating a hard wealth cap of $50m.
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Provide all basic necessities to everyone free of charge paid for by tax dollars. Food, water, housing, sewage, trash, healthcare, etc. Anyone who wants to live in a situation beyond just the basic necessities can choose to work, but work should be a choice, especially with how advanced automation technologies are becoming.
There are also additional ideas like the ones in the solarpunk movement (library economy, focus on integration of nature with society, etc.) that are worth striving for.
Right. We could argue details but that’s more or less acceptable to me.
But getting to somewhere like that from here is a real uphill battle.
I’ve posted it a bunch lately but it really does feel like people hate all the pieces of capitalism without realizing they’re all connected.
I’ve posted it a bunch lately but it really does feel like people hate all the pieces of capitalism without realizing they’re all connected.
This is in large part due to Joe McCarthy, Ronald Reagan, and co. making the words “communist” and “socialist” socially unacceptable by kicking off the Red Scare in the 1950s. Can’t critique capitalism in those days without being called a Commie and losing your job.
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It stopped being conservatism a while ago. It’s eugenics. Oligarchic capitalism, racism and genocidal fascism wearing the skin of conservatisms hollowed husk
The American right has been like this since at least the civil war with the Confederates, if not even further back, going back to the elitists during the founding of the country who “compromised” with the anti-elitists to have less democracy, like having the senate consist of two voting members per state, regardless of population, the electoral college, allowing slavery to exist, and no federal direct ballot initiatives.
Because the elites know best, right?
Hitler specifically took inspiration from the Confederacy for his Third Reich.
Yea agreed.
Well, there was that time a fat meth addict betrayed one of the billionaires/rivals that made him Fuhrer.
They did. So we ignore the circus while they rob the treasury.
They’re skimping on the bread and are heavy on the circus.
They already did that, though.
There’s more to rob
Dude finality of payments is already gone; they already took the literal concept of money. Good riddance, but it’s gone.
They could still actually rob Fort Knox and directly invest the U.S. treasury into a crypto pump and dump scheme.
Dude they already did the crypto thing.
Like twice.
I’m talking an actual transfer of federal funds and pretending it’s legit, like the proposed strategic crypto reserve/sovereign wealth fund.
The previous ones were personal grift, paid for by willing idiots.
There isn’t enough popcorn for this.
