• TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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    OP, per Rule 4, for accessibility reasons, an image of text must either have alt text or a transcript in the post body.


    Edit: Counting this as a warning for future posts, OP, but since you might not be here to address this, a transcript in a comment as a lesser substitute:

    Bushra Shaikh (@Bushra1Shaikh): How TF did Americans vote the clown in, not once but TWICE.

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    This creator posted on Election Day 2024: "Punish the democrats for their passive response to the genocide in Palestine. If there ever was a party who should have stood firmly against it, we would’ve assumed the Dems. They proved otherwise. F Kamala Harris. Hope she loses.” [truncated URL to the post here]

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      I apologize if I’m just being stupid about this, but I take this opportunity to ask: how do we add alt-text to an image on Lemmy? I always add it on Mastodon, but I’ve never figured out how to do it on Lemmy (I use the web interface, maybe it requires a special app?). I’ve seen that others have done it, and I see that it’s a rule here for images of text, which is good. But HOW to do it?

      Thanks!

      Edit: Thanks everyone for the answers!

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        images on lemmy are shaped like links, and alt text is supposed to fit in the description, so when completed it looks like this:

        ![alt text](image.png)

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        I know it’s not a lot, but when I was doing some UI work on PCSX2, I tried the screen reader Orca on Linux to see what a blind person’s experience interacting with the UI was like. It was unusable. There was practically nothing. (Apparently on macOS it was kind of okay, but not because of anything the PCSX2 application was doing correctly.) It was staggering how terrible the experience was; even the tab ordering through the UI elements wasn’t enforced, so the element focus was like a game of connect-the-dots darting around the window. We weren’t using any – even trivial – accessibility functionality in Qt. To this day, I think most of that still needs to be done, as I only managed with my minimal knowledge to fix some low-hanging fruit (which would hopefully have at least helped a little).

        What prompted me to try this? PS2 games are such a visual experience, after all. A fan replied to our Mastodon account saying that 1) he was totally blind from birth, 2) he loved playing PS2 games growing up, and 3) his favorite one was OutRun 2006 (yes, the high-speed racing game). This wasn’t a gag; he was visibly blind and detailed his experience. This wasn’t a one-off either; multiple users who note that they’re totally blind in their bio have followed the account. It really humanized something I’d conceptualized generically as something you should do because it’s a good thing to do. The most succinct way to put the lesson I was smacked in the face with was: “If you build it, they will come.”

        That is, I know for sure that it’s not just a formality when I enforce it.

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    I remember arguing for days, in 2024, that the whole “Democrats are bad because Palestine” thing was clearly a psyop by Russian bots trying to mess with the election. I really need to improve my persuasion skills. Like by a lot.

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      Pretty sure Democrats doing nothing to stop the genocide in gaza was a factor to their detriment in the election, bots aside

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        Even knowing that Trump was going to actively help Bibi? That’s the thing I didn’t understand: sure, the Democrats were not doing much to stop the slaughter, but from the previous Trump administration we knew Trump was going to actively help.

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          sure, the Democrats were not doing much to stop the slaughter

          They were selling weapons to enable the genocide you’re downplaying by refusing to call it a genocide.

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            Answer the fucking core of their point, instead going on random tangents. How the fuck is Trump better for the palestinians you supposedly care about than the Democrats? How did NOT having a spineless democrat in office help them? What did all you moral purists do in those 4-ish hours once every 4 years where you didn’t vote? How many walmarts have been fire bombed?

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          Ok, but you see how massively demoralizing this conversation is, right?

          Making logical points weighing up two distinct yet similar stances on genocide is only going to suppress voter turnout.

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            Yes, I can see that it would be demoralizing, and it was demoralizing. The Schumer/Biden wing of the Democrats deserves to be cast into the bonfire of the vanities, they are completely useless. And while this might sound sarcastic, I truly believe they have ended their usefulness, if they ever had much.

            But we are talking about human beings and their lives. It may not make much of a philosophical difference to compare different stances on this senseless slaughter, but it makes eminently practical sense to save the lives you can. An American Presidential election was not going to produce much of a genocide-stopping president in 2024, and I hope 2028 does better, but there were distinct differences in approach and stance and collaboration with Bibi.

            Case in point, look up “Gaza floating pier,” vs. “Trump Gaza resort.” it’s not about philosophical differences when you are starving.

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              If genocide is bipartisan, then the less bad choice is whatever collapses the US the fastest. You wouldn’t try to choose the leader of Nazi Germany based on who’s going to run the holocaust most effectively

              Case in point, look up “Gaza floating pier,” vs. “Trump Gaza resort.” it’s not about philosophical differences when you are starving.

              BlueMAGA is a parody of itself

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              Yeah buddy I wasn’t saying not actively working against it was helping it. I meant literally helping it. That Administration was actively arming the Israelis and aiding in the genocide. Super weird that you didn’t know that.

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                Ok then tell me this, did Bibi like Biden? Did he want Biden to win? Did he think Biden let him do all he wanted? What did Biden say about Bibi in return?

                Then you can look at things like Republicans voting to force continued sales of weapons

                https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/us/politics/house-bill-reverse-israel-arms-pause.html

                Meanwhile; https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5429072-sanders-resolution-fails-israel-military/

                Tell me what Biden could’ve done that wouldn’t amount to starting a war?

                You’re such a ghoul, actively helping people like Musk and Miller and ensuring Trump won’t put up obstacles for Israel murdering people in Lebanon and Iran. Because it’s more important to you that people get martyred against their will for your personal ideological purity. You knew the genocide would get worse if Trump won and you decided that would be better

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                  Pretty trivially easy question. Biden could have done a lot of things – vetoed funding and stopped running interference for Israel in the UN. And he could have called it a genocide and illegal on the world stage. Biden refused to call it a genocide. He could have called for an international force to stop the killing. He also flew recon missions for the Israelis with US drones over Gaza didnt he.

                  And “starting a war”? with who, Israel? Are you stupid? That war would last 5 minutes. Biden took massive amounts of money from AIPAC his entire career, and called himself a zionist all the time. Your pretending he had no choice and was simply a victim of circumstance is pure lies. He was massively bribed. A corrupt peice of shit genocide supporter. He would absolutely lose his case and be imprisoned if the US had done the right thing and signed onto the ICC. He belongs in an orange jumpsuit, sharing a cell with trump.

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                  Its illegal to send weapons or money to a country that is committing genocide. Biden could have simply said he cannot legally support Israel in any way and then just not. Instead Biden chose to lie for Israel aboiut 40 beheaded babies and provide unlimited diplomatic support, going so far as to bomb Yemen for resisting.

                  Democratic leadership knew this would decrease turnout, they prioritized unlimited support for Israel over winning the election.

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    Okay, so:

    • Voting Democrat in the general election is the choice with (edited in: the) least horrible consequences and
    • Voting Democrat in the general election isn’t nearly enough to stop the ratchet-effecting into fascism, and a stand-for-nothing placeholder centrist Democrat president in 2028 will probably just lead to Trump-3/Vance/someone similarly horrible in 2032

    are unfortunately both true.

    Also, non-MAGA Americans - (EDIT: liberals, not the party leaders) and leftists alike - need better people skills. With infighting like this, Republicans hardly even need to lift a finger.

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    I love how disenchanted voters complain about a 2 party system but fail to realize that in a democracy changing that is on them. It takes time, money, and lots hard work to build a viable 3rd alternative. Dems and GOP have zero incentive to help that process.

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      Leftists love to abandon a candidate they mostly agree with as long as there’s one single issue that doesn’t align perfectly.

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        That “single issue” is literally genocide. I don’t really care if Adolf Hitler aligns with me on wanting to make train rides free.

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          Gazabrained take. Protest another two state politician while Trump posts AI memes of hotels on Palestinian land.

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            I remember when people used to make jokes about how like, if one side says “kill all the Jews” and the other side says, “don’t kill anyone,” the reasonable centrist position would be to kill half the Jews. It was a way of parodying centrists and lesser-evilism, because any line of logic that leads to that kind of mass murder is obviously wrong.

            These days, the joke doesn’t work because people are unironically screaming about how you have to support the person who wants to kill half the Palestinians or you’re a bad person. You all have become such ridiculous self-parodies that there’s nothing I could say to criticize you that’s worse than your own stated positions.

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              So you don’t care about saving half the Palestinians?

              Have you watched Schindler’s list? Would you just have profited off the Holocaust, because saving a few wouldn’t matter?

              Most “I’m privileged enough that my vote doesn’t impact me” position I’ve ever heard.

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                What the fuck are you talking about? What a bunch of bizarre leaps of logic.

                How on earth do you get from “I’m opposed to genocide” to “I would be fine profiting from the Holocaust because who gives a shit?” Show your work.

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                  Voting to save half the Palestinians isn’t worth it, because half still die. => Any effort for Harm reduction is useless if there is still some Harm => Why save some Jews if most still die? Might as well profit because its more convenient for you.

                  There’s the work.

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    That this has over 700 upvotes on lemmy.world says everything you need to know about lemmy.world.

    You see it turns out you can have more than 1 thought in your head at once. Trump can be a fascist who materially supports a genocide and the democrat party can also be materially supporting a genocide. Look at how little they’ve done to stop the Iran war. Why do you think that is?

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      The only way to “punish” the Democrats at the time this post was written was to allow Trump to be elected. The OP was advocating that Americans attempt to stop a genocide by performing an action that would make the genocide worse. There were only two candidates in the race with even the remotest chance of winning: Harris and Trump. If the poster hoped Harris would lose then she hoped Trump would win.

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          It definitely wasn’t doing the people of Gaza a favor, but it sure as hell was not giving bibi any more impunity slaughtering civilians.

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              I was pretty pro-Kamala during 2024, but I do not recall that. I recall a Palestinian-American speaker being shut out of the DNC because of her opinion on how a country we were financially supporting was murdering her family. I recall Kamala saying after the election that she wanted to speak out against Israel’s genocide, but part of the deal to get Biden to step down was to stay silent. I can for sure day that she would have tried to return to the status quo; a strained and sustained dispute in the West Bank. I think saying for sure that she was standing up to Bibi, or would have taken decisve action against Israel does not match the facts or pattern of behavior.

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    This person is an idiot. The american public gave up on their one chance to influence the outcome of the presidency and fucked it up for everyone beyond comprehension, and are now still trying to push the blame on the establishment. Fuck every one of the sitouts and republican voters. You enabled the orange buffoon and couldnt see the threat he represented. Sometimes, when life gives you a choice between lemons and your way of life being destroyed in a childish tantrum, you swallow the fucking lemon.

    Gaza and the world thanks you. Fuckers.

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        We’re all suffering, becuase some people refused to understand why voting matters. And not just us, now millions of people around the world are suffering.
        I hope it feels good.

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          I do. It’s good when bad people like you suffer. And lol at saying now millions of people around the world are suffering. Genocide denying ghoul, glad you’re miserable.

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            People like you are the reason the left hasn’t accomplished anything of note in 100 years.

            I do.

            Edit: This is stupid and you’re a bad person.

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              Why would you think that I would be affected by your moral scolding when I already believe that your evil and your morality is non-existent? I hate you, and if you’re upset with me: good. I’m glad you’re miserable, I think you should be more miserable. Trying to pontificate about morality to me doesn’t work because I already know you don’t have any, and you only use appeals to it cynically, like the Zionist you are.

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                Well what the hell did you do to stop genocide? Watch a bunch of tik tok videos about why the latest Harry Potter video game is bad? Get the hell out of my face with this b.s. The truth is you and youre entire movement is ineffectual and you know it.

                I’m glad you’re miserable, I think you should be more miserable.

                The lady doth protest too much, methinks

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                  Watch a bunch of tik tok videos about why the latest Harry Potter video game is bad? Get the hell out of my face with this b.s.

                  📽️

                  You literally cannot imagine someone who isn’t you.

                  The truth is you and youre entire movement is ineffectual and you know it.

                  Yeah? Well the Republicans seem pretty fucking effectual. Maybe I should join them, if effectual is all that matters. I certainly wouldn’t join your completely useless political project.

                  The lady doth protest too much, methinks

                  Fucking cringe.

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    the republicans need punishment more than any party.

    also the democrats don’t even want to win so forcing them to serve a term and actually have a fucking job is the greatest punishment you could ever inflict upon them.

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      Every single president involved in supporting wars and genocides or starting wars should rot in jail

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    This was all over Lemmy, too, along with all the other social media platforms.

    It pretty much disappeared everywhere the instant trump won, as well as the complaints about grocery prices and the lies about gas prices.

    The exception was lemmy, prob thanks to hex, grad, and ml, where people still find the time to randomly inject democrat hate.

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      It’s not surprising that talk about the election was greatly reduced after the election ended.

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      That’s because it was a push by foreign propaganda campaigns to influence the US election. Israel and Russia both had a vested interest in having Trump win.

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        Or it could be that the Democrats are so unpopular that a billion dollars can’t win them an election. No, you’re right, it’s because of Russia the Democrats failed to communicate their platform effectively.

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          It’s both. The Democrats are incompetent, but it’s also true that Russia used their vast propaganda network to influence the election. This isn’t exactly some secret.

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    Typical “socialist” rhetoric.

    “I won’t vote for gEnOciDe sUpPoRtErS!”

    [TRUMP WINS]

    “REEEEEEEEE! It’s the democrats fault!!!”

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      “If you don’t stop supporting genocide, you’re going to lose”

      “Shut the fuck up you want trump to win!”

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          Yup. You interpret any criticism of genocidal politicians in your wing of the democratic party as trump support. Not because it is trump support. You know better than that. It’s because no centrist wants anyone to oppose genocide.

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              You’re happy with how events turned out because you got genocide either way. Now you’re trolling anyone who has a problem with the only thing that makes you happy.

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                You’re just butthurt because all your protest got you was more genocide- like we told you.

                And don’t act like you even knew where Palestine was before this started.

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                  You’re just butthurt because all your protest got you was more genocide- like we told you.

                  You’re ecstatic that no one was given a choice to vote against the genocide you demand under all circumstances.

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      Yes, so vote for the lesser evil.

      The primaries is where you try to get your candidate to the general election. Vote for your chosen choice here, and then vote against the fucking Nazi party during the general election. It’s really not hard.

      People who sat out this last election are worse than trump supporters. They knew how bad trump was, and decided not to take a stand against him.

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        Kamala Harris would have won the election had she not become best buddies with Dick Cheney and his daughter. All she had to do was to criticise Biden’s mistakes, and promise to do better.

        Trump didn’t win. Democracts gifted the election to Trump.

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        The party doesn’t offer good candidates in primaries, either. The only people I’ve found actually worthy of my vote have been from the DSA, PSL, or Greens. This is why the Dems will never support ranked choice voting, it totally destroys their ability to siphon political power from the left.

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        Democrats will go to court and argue that they have the right to interfere with the will of the people in primaries. They will protect incumbent centrists like Henry Cuellar but not incumbent progressives like Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman. They will sue to make sure no challenger appears on the ballot in all 50 states. They will appoint a candidate no one but genocidal centrists like at the last moment without a primary.

        Then they’ll say shit like “The primaries is where you try to get your candidate to the general election. Vote for your chosen choice here”

        Because and only because they like how the primary system is rigged in favor of the genocidal shit they like.

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          All true. And still, if one is a fucking adult, one can see that the GOP is now, quite literally, a facist party, and the Dems are still orders of magnitude less harmful. Once one is in that voting booth, one votes against the much worse party even if the alternative is still bad. I don’t care one criticizes the party up to the election, and swears up and down one didn’t vote Dem, or even lies and says they didn’t afterwards, one still votes Dem or they are simply demonstrating that they have enough privilege or insulation to ride out a fascist administration without much difficulty.

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    I’d be very curious to see how many of you vote for someone who killed your entire family. Hey, you may even have the opportunity to by the time Trump dies and federal Dems expect you to pretend that they did anything to stop this.

    Edit: I’m gonna leave this here in case any of you bloodthirsty libs think that you actually care about anyone’s wellbeing. Imagine hearing news every week – maybe even every day – of your cousins dying, your siblings, your parents, your neighbours, people who you spoke to once and remember fondly, everything about your home destroyed in the most brutal and violent way imaginable; some of them died slowly, trapped under rubble for days. Then, you can’t stomach to support or even tolerate the people who haven’t even stopped bombing and sniping and gassing your family, and some fucking privileged assholes in the metropole blame you when their white supremacist state elects one of two white supremacists. Almost inhuman levels of dissonance.

    Look at this and say why you think these people don’t deserve to hate you and the system you benefit from.

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      I’d be very curious to see how many of you vote for someone who killed your entire family.

      Well, gosh, I dunno, let’s say Democrats killed your whole family. So you have a choice: One party that killed your whole family, or another party that… also killed your whole family.

      I guess it makes no difference! Except all the fucking other ways it does, AND that’s if we accept that on that issue both parties are the same, which they are not (although it’s one of the places centre-right Dems fucking suck, yes).

      One of my children hits me with an open fist from time to time, the other one uses a knife. I think I’ll take the kid that only uses their fist over the one that uses the knife. Or some stupid analogy.

      Oh, you don’t like either of those? Then act where it matters to make change! Primaries, run for office, support other candidates. But when it comes to voting between fist and knife, I’ll vote fist every fucking time.

      This argument is fucking infuriating because all of the asshats voting against our best interests are harming all of us. Yes, it sucks, but you have to take the best option at every fucking level, or you get even worse. Like we are now.

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        Wow, you wrote all of that and didn’t think for a moment, “maybe my best interests are worse for others.” This is what zero material or systemic analysis does to your worldview. You think all of those people are just what, stupid? Too stupid yo know they should make decisions in your best interest regardless of how much the system that you benefit from has ruined their life? You’re the big smarty pants for acknowledging that these two genocidal parties have different tactics? How fucking delusional.

        Maybe extend a sliver of empathy --if you have even that much to spare --and consider how someone would feel to know they are supporting the same people that used sniper drones to pick off their little brother or their father or their mother or the fucking nice neighbour they grew up with. Maybe they don’t care if it hurts them individually to exercise some sort of control over the people that killed their family. Maybe, they think they don’t deserve to suffer the consequences of that system while the metropole lives in comfort.

        People don’t have to behave the way you want, and especially do not have to behave in a way that benefits you, understanding why is more important than pretending that there’s a few people who make this fundamentally genocidal system “worse.”

        “Scratch a liberal, and a fascist bleeds.”

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          Wow, you wrote all of that and didn’t think for a moment, “maybe my best interests are worse for others.”

          Yes, my best interests like universal healthcare, universal basic income, human rights, not invading other countries, not supporting genocide… or what did you have in mind that you’d like to accuse me of?

          You think all of those people are just what, stupid?

          Well, yes. To borrow from another reply in here, when the option is BAD or WORSE you choose BAD every fucking time.

          You’re the big smarty pants for acknowledging that these two genocidal parties have different tactics? How fucking delusional.

          I’m sorry you fail at comprehension. I guess you’re not a big smart pants.

          Maybe extend a sliver of empathy

          Fuck off, this is a false accusation.

          and consider how someone would feel t

          Again, you can’t be bothered to comprehend anything I wrote.

          Just… fuck off, I’m not going to bother when you don’t bother reading.

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            Very juvenile way to respond (even when ignoring how foolish it is to claim any federal politician in the US hasn’t supported genocide or that healthcare in the United States in any way benefits the targets of its genocides).

            You don’t have to make it public to actually reflect on the consequences of how you think. “You’re dumb and I don’t like what my words mean,” is not really the words of a person who I’d trust to vote in my best interests, anyway. Guess I can say you deserve whatever liberalism throws at you too.

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                I don’t know how you could interpret this as, “polite.” I’m telling you that your worldview is genocidal. If I’m ignorant, please, tell me how you know what you know. I’d love to hear the decolonial scholars that you’ve engaged with so that I can be cured of my moral degeneracy.

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                  When you can’t even comprehend basic things and try to put things into my mouth I certainly didn’t say, I really don’t see the point, and I should have bailed on you much sooner, I’m just tired of people claiming to not want the fascists to win and yet doing things that help the fascists win.

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            Is this question meant to suggest I’m like, from the country of origin of this phrase? No Euro theorists allowed? Or is it that I’m meant to be somehow unaware of the practical conditions in the US by merit of ever suggesting that liberalism is not a practical solution?

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    this garbage again. now it’s voter fault that they forced a superpac shill who told the voters to stfu while bombing kids in refugee camp and let megacorps fck working class. this time they didn’t even bothered with a sham primary like hillary or biden.

    all mainstream dems other than aoc, warren and bernie are still spitting on its base. has harris or dem leadership done one thing to change their stance or support its people after election ?

    keep voting lesser evil and you will keep getting two faced snakes with better propaganda.

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      Why are you whining about these shitlibs who won’t change their view? You won’t get centrist Democrats moving to you. You need to replace these people through primaries.

      Is that the excuse not to vote, if you’re in that country? So you got something to whine about?

      Aren’t there primaries going on now? If so and you haven’t, why aren’t you voting for or helping out your chosen candidate, one who isn’t a shitlib?

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        did i say anything about not voting in primaries ? harris didn’t even get 1000 votes in 2020 primaries and was made vp in place of warren who came third with 3 million votes. what primaries were there in 24 ? its interesting that close to midterms we are again seeing this “lesser evil” jargon to sell garbage candidates backed by aipac and dnc elites

        i am voting all the primaries, but i am not voting for some trash like newsom even if he wins in 28 primaries by 99%. instead of palantir and oracle like trump, he will be killing working class for all the ai parasites like openai and meta.

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          did I say anything…

          You said sham, which indicates by proxy a lack of desire to participate.

          harris didn’t get…was made vp…

          Yes, I said shitlibs won’t change. Primaries have nothing to do with who gets picked as VP. They’re there for you to put who you want in as runner. Works well enough for the other team.

          What primaries…

          None, shitlibs.

          Its interesting…

          Really? Why are you surprised? Fun fact: this has been going on for a long, long time. Why? Because the people don’t vote in numbers, not do they understand their system well enough to get it to work for them.

          You know who does? Yep, Republicans. They do this time in time out and religiously. They don’t piss and moan about this candidate or that; they vote the nutbag in at primary time then follow up. They do, not whinge.

          I am voting all the primaries

          Good, if you and enough others do it, you should get your candidate.

          but I am not voting for some trash line Newsom

          Who is better than Trump, if he’s the candidate and you don’t nothing changes and your system allows no other approach. You will be letting your country down again.

          instead of palantir and trump

          If you think Newsom is as bad as Trump you’re outright stupid.

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            “this time sham” meant the 24 primaries where the democratic candidate was selected for us based on the most obedient pet for superpacs and israel.

            as for other points, i dont give a shit what republicans do. if a candidate doesn’t meet the minimum standards, no one should be voting for them. we will never get a candidate like obama or sanders ever again if we keep voting snakes painted in fake blue color. and sooner or later they will as bad as red snakes. or worse

            dnc elites only stopped whining about mamdani during the primaries when it became clear its helping him as most nyc voters hated them as much as republicans

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              the 24 primaries

              Didn’t happen because the incumbent was originally running. That only changed because it became apparent he’d get flogged.

              The ones who did have primaries were Republicans, though they all pulled out when…it became apparent who they’d all vote for. Hmm.

              I don’t give a shit what Republicans do

              I would. They school you pretty much every election, both the centrists and the left.

              Sanders

              Was an independent and never getting their support.

              Obama

              Is a centrist and not that much better than Harris so I’m not sure where you’re headed with that. That said, Obama was a very good president. I have no doubt Harris would have at least been better than Trump and here’s the kicker…there’d certainly be no war and there’d be a peace process underway in Gaza.

              sooner or later they will be as bad as red snakes

              I hear this a lot but have yet to see it come to fruition, as tepid as they are

              DNC elites

              Never stopped whining about Mamdani until the last gasp, so much so, one ran against him. They don’t change and you will not drag them to it. You’ll kill your country trying though.

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                I love how you call others shitlibs. Yikes, you’re like king of the liberals. Zero understanding of politics, just parroting terms you don’t understand.